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alexanderpaez's review
1.0
Buf, desde luego los Avengers no son para mí. O por lo menos esta serie. El segundo volumen lo he dejado a medias.
dreamsneverend's review
4.0
Al principio fue bastante básico, aunque con una buena idea en la trama, pero no era suficiente. Gracias a Dios fue aumentando su fuerza y solidez, eso lo hizo muchísimo mejor que antes. El arte es una belleza, estoy enamorada.
meepelous's review
3.0
Flipping to the back of the book, as I'm want to do, the description for this T+ rated volume is as follows: The Avengers "go large" expanding their roster and sphere of influence to a global and even interplanetary level. When Captian America puts out his call, who will respond? The answers will surprise you! The Avengers' first mission takes them to Mars, but the secrets of the Garden lead right back to Earth's Savage Land! And when the Shi'ar Imperial Guard are broken on a dead moon, the Avengers travel across the galaxy to battle an invading force. It all leads up to the secret origins of the universe itself, as Captain Universe races to decipher the code hidden in the Avengers' recent adventures! Jonathan Hickman takes Earth's Mightiest Heroes to the next level with big threats, big ideas and big idealism, These are the Avengers NOW!
Bigger drama, more characters, all the complexity! Since I was brought to this book by my impression that Nation Under our Feet was too complicated, I guess the first thing I wanted to note was what it was like coming to this as a someone who hasn't really dived into Avengers comics before at the very least. I still read a lot more DC comics then marvel overall. TLDR: I guess I should cut Coates' a bit more slack because gees was this volume all about the "deepness". Unfortunately for Hickman, I have actually read the bible a couple of times, so the biblical imagery was less then impressive. I was a bit intrigued about the ways in which Hickman is using the bible to seem really smart, but it mostly struck me as being an unfortunate side-effect of the Christian supremacy that dominates North America. Although I'm not sure I would want a white american man to be using any other ancient religious text, I feel as part of the "dominant culture" I should be aware of how pervasive my religion can be. I also wasn't terribly thrilled about the way that this introduction pointed to singular genius - as if any thing is the product of one smart person and not a lot of different kinds of people.
On the other hand I did like how every chapter opened with a graphic passively letting you know what characters to expect.
Flipping back through the volume I would say the art style was more pleasing to my eye then I expected, if a bit overwrought (although I guess that goes with some of the other issues I have with the comic). As far as the way that people with boobs are depicted visually, besides the fact that everyone is running around in spandex, the first half of the volume was pretty excellent. Even in the second half, you definitely have the odd butt (sometime even a guy's la gasp), boob, and cliche female pose, but the power dynamics where artists are basically drawing arrows from the CIS man's dick to the the CIS woman's vagina are avoided. I was a bit embarrassed by the fact I was still a little bugged by these comic characters not looking like their movie counterparts - obviously that would be pretty silly, but the human mind is inexplicable.
As far as this book is concerned at least, the treatment of race seems half-way decent. It should be noted that the Avengers as they are brought together for this particular issue is the brainchild of a white man, putting him at the top, but does include a montage of some diversity, although people seem to mostly just be one kind of diversity at a time. From a Christian perspective it was good to see adam represented as brown. The one apparently intersectionally diverse character is Captain Universe, who is here taking up residence in a black woman. While I'm not the final word on this sort of thing, this representation as the personification of the universe as a black woman struck me as truth people speak in real life, rendered trite in a marvel comic reality. There's also a scene at the end where the Asian character is trying to push captain universe out of caring about her previous physical experience and just go on being Captain Universe.
Class remains unaddressed. Avengers will always have all the money they need!
Bye y'all, keep reading and resist fascism
Bigger drama, more characters, all the complexity! Since I was brought to this book by my impression that Nation Under our Feet was too complicated, I guess the first thing I wanted to note was what it was like coming to this as a someone who hasn't really dived into Avengers comics before at the very least. I still read a lot more DC comics then marvel overall. TLDR: I guess I should cut Coates' a bit more slack because gees was this volume all about the "deepness". Unfortunately for Hickman, I have actually read the bible a couple of times, so the biblical imagery was less then impressive. I was a bit intrigued about the ways in which Hickman is using the bible to seem really smart, but it mostly struck me as being an unfortunate side-effect of the Christian supremacy that dominates North America. Although I'm not sure I would want a white american man to be using any other ancient religious text, I feel as part of the "dominant culture" I should be aware of how pervasive my religion can be. I also wasn't terribly thrilled about the way that this introduction pointed to singular genius - as if any thing is the product of one smart person and not a lot of different kinds of people.
On the other hand I did like how every chapter opened with a graphic passively letting you know what characters to expect.
Flipping back through the volume I would say the art style was more pleasing to my eye then I expected, if a bit overwrought (although I guess that goes with some of the other issues I have with the comic). As far as the way that people with boobs are depicted visually, besides the fact that everyone is running around in spandex, the first half of the volume was pretty excellent. Even in the second half, you definitely have the odd butt (sometime even a guy's la gasp), boob, and cliche female pose, but the power dynamics where artists are basically drawing arrows from the CIS man's dick to the the CIS woman's vagina are avoided. I was a bit embarrassed by the fact I was still a little bugged by these comic characters not looking like their movie counterparts - obviously that would be pretty silly, but the human mind is inexplicable.
As far as this book is concerned at least, the treatment of race seems half-way decent. It should be noted that the Avengers as they are brought together for this particular issue is the brainchild of a white man, putting him at the top, but does include a montage of some diversity, although people seem to mostly just be one kind of diversity at a time. From a Christian perspective it was good to see adam represented as brown. The one apparently intersectionally diverse character is Captain Universe, who is here taking up residence in a black woman. While I'm not the final word on this sort of thing, this representation as the personification of the universe as a black woman struck me as truth people speak in real life, rendered trite in a marvel comic reality. There's also a scene at the end where the Asian character is trying to push captain universe out of caring about her previous physical experience and just go on being Captain Universe.
Class remains unaddressed. Avengers will always have all the money they need!
Bye y'all, keep reading and resist fascism
rtimmorris's review
3.0
Only six issues into the series, and it still feels as though Hickman is only scratching the surface of the story he wants to tell. This series really feels big. Epic. Important. The next arc is heading into New Universe territory - a group of books from the 80's that I've never read or even read about - but I'm looking forward to seeing what Hickman's going to pull next.
The format for this series is interesting. From what I've read, Hickman plans on telling a 3-issue arc followed by 3 single issues that each spotlight a different Avenger. I like the sounds of it; should prevent readers from losing interest too quickly, which seems to happen when the writer wants to "go big" and tell a mediocre story using 5+ issues.
This book may get a higher rating the further into the series I read.
*UPDATE*: Upon re-reading this volume and knowing (sort of) where the story is really headed (Secret Wars), I can confidently up my rating to a 3.5 out of 5. Too bad volume two still cannot avoid too many WTF moments.
The format for this series is interesting. From what I've read, Hickman plans on telling a 3-issue arc followed by 3 single issues that each spotlight a different Avenger. I like the sounds of it; should prevent readers from losing interest too quickly, which seems to happen when the writer wants to "go big" and tell a mediocre story using 5+ issues.
This book may get a higher rating the further into the series I read.
*UPDATE*: Upon re-reading this volume and knowing (sort of) where the story is really headed (Secret Wars), I can confidently up my rating to a 3.5 out of 5. Too bad volume two still cannot avoid too many WTF moments.
noucki's review
4.0
3,5*
I was a bit scared that this story would be way to confusing but I thought it was actually alright. There were a lot of interesting characters, so many that it was almost a bit too much sometimes but later in the volume we get some cool backstorys so the characters started to make more sense. I also liked that really almost all the characters get their moment in the story even though some really have extremely small roles... I liked the outer space aspect of the story too and I thought the art was nice. I'm also really curious as to what this "white event" is and how the story will continue.
I was a bit scared that this story would be way to confusing but I thought it was actually alright. There were a lot of interesting characters, so many that it was almost a bit too much sometimes but later in the volume we get some cool backstorys so the characters started to make more sense. I also liked that really almost all the characters get their moment in the story even though some really have extremely small roles... I liked the outer space aspect of the story too and I thought the art was nice. I'm also really curious as to what this "white event" is and how the story will continue.
wyrmbergsabrina's review
2.0
I literally gave no idea what's going on. What turned out to be one story, actually might have been another, but then it jumps all over the place giving us origin stories in pieces and something else going on too but ?I'm so lost by the end of it I actually have no investment.
I read this from the library's ebook so there's a panel that reads over two pages so I was flicking between pages to read the panels. Ebooks still have drawbacks.
I'm sure those in the know enjoy this, those who read the rest of the series get it, but right now, I'm missing out.
Sorry.
I read this from the library's ebook so there's a panel that reads over two pages so I was flicking between pages to read the panels. Ebooks still have drawbacks.
I'm sure those in the know enjoy this, those who read the rest of the series get it, but right now, I'm missing out.
Sorry.
strikingthirteen's review
5.0
That was awesome. Really. Everything blew me away. The art, the story, the dialogue. It was all awesome and you can bet I'm rushing to get my hands on the next volumes.
One day, Captain America and Iron Man talk about how they need to get bigger. They set the pieces in place for the day that that call needs to be answered. With the threat here being terraforming aliens and all but one of the Avengers incapacitated, that time is now. Captain Marvel, Cannonball, Sunspot, Falcon, Spiderman, Spiderwoman, Manifold, Wolverine, Hyperion, and a host of other familiar faces answer the call and as they do we learn that the coming threat is much bigger than what it seems.
It's a tight story and a very engaging one. The author also handles having all these characters he's working with very well by splitting them up into teams for various tasks and having a section of the book dedicated to each. You're even told up front which heroes will be the protagonists of each section.
Another neat tidbit is that there is another language being spoken and it is depicted only by symbols. There is a decoder at the back of the book so you decode all along if you feel like knowing a little bit more than the Avengers do about what's coming.
It's a fantastic read and I can't recommend it highly enough.
One day, Captain America and Iron Man talk about how they need to get bigger. They set the pieces in place for the day that that call needs to be answered. With the threat here being terraforming aliens and all but one of the Avengers incapacitated, that time is now. Captain Marvel, Cannonball, Sunspot, Falcon, Spiderman, Spiderwoman, Manifold, Wolverine, Hyperion, and a host of other familiar faces answer the call and as they do we learn that the coming threat is much bigger than what it seems.
It's a tight story and a very engaging one. The author also handles having all these characters he's working with very well by splitting them up into teams for various tasks and having a section of the book dedicated to each. You're even told up front which heroes will be the protagonists of each section.
Another neat tidbit is that there is another language being spoken and it is depicted only by symbols. There is a decoder at the back of the book so you decode all along if you feel like knowing a little bit more than the Avengers do about what's coming.
It's a fantastic read and I can't recommend it highly enough.
squidbag's review
4.0
Starts off with not just one big bang, but three, and Hickman's writing is capable of tying together something like 20 major characters and three semi-epic locales. The pitched battles begin to feel incidental to a larger story that's being told, and the creative team here assumes that you know the big boys and focuses instead on some second-tier characters - the things with Shang-Chi and Manifold are particularly good, I thought. Enjoyable and broad fun with more thought than a lot of relatively recent Avengers.
nigellicus's review
5.0
Tony Stark and Captain America decide they need to reorganise the Avengers to face threats and dangers that seem to be geeing bigger and badder. Sure enough along come a big bad threat, three aliens on Mars who want to either remake the earth or destroy it based on some ancient fascist eugenics alien programming, the sort of sci fi Big Idea Hickman is bringing to bear in his run but which seems divorced from anything, I dunno, relatable? Can you get away with an alien race sending out automated drones to wipe out life on every planet until they finds one that can be perfected? I mean, as a project it sounds inhuman, which is presumably the point, but I dunno, aliens are people too, surely?
Anyway untold billions of deaths across the Galaxy and then they reach Earth and because Earth is a setting in a Marvel comic they get stopped, but not before killing millions of people in a few panels. I'm saying the casual incessantly huge body count bothers me in an otherwise crisply executed comic that manages a large cast and lots of ideas and epic sweep really well. Dunno why, I grew up reading 2000AD, they'd cheerfully off millions every few pages. maybe if I reread them now they'd bother me, too. Anyway, I expect there'll be a lot more of this in volumes to come, let's see how long I can stick it.
Anyway untold billions of deaths across the Galaxy and then they reach Earth and because Earth is a setting in a Marvel comic they get stopped, but not before killing millions of people in a few panels. I'm saying the casual incessantly huge body count bothers me in an otherwise crisply executed comic that manages a large cast and lots of ideas and epic sweep really well. Dunno why, I grew up reading 2000AD, they'd cheerfully off millions every few pages. maybe if I reread them now they'd bother me, too. Anyway, I expect there'll be a lot more of this in volumes to come, let's see how long I can stick it.
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