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trike's review against another edition
1.0
So this was apparently part of yet another goddamned crossover event. Only part of the story is here, and more seems to happen in the single-page “Previously” bits than in the entire rest of the book. Lame.
Also, in the Marvel universe “infinity” implies Thanos. He ain’t here. What’s up with that bullshit? At least what story there is has marginally more coherence than the usual Hickman stuff.
So I guess I have to go find the big event collection or something. And they wonder why sales suck. This nonsense is why.
Also, in the Marvel universe “infinity” implies Thanos. He ain’t here. What’s up with that bullshit? At least what story there is has marginally more coherence than the usual Hickman stuff.
So I guess I have to go find the big event collection or something. And they wonder why sales suck. This nonsense is why.
noeliasreadings's review against another edition
adventurous
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.0
No me ha interesado mucho el cómic, me gusta el dibujo pero la historia no demasiado. Lo he terminado porque pues no sé, puede que el siguiente sea mejor según dejan este.
captwinghead's review
2.0
2.5 stars
Where to begin... where to begin...
So, Marvel was really feeling themselves with this one, huh? "Read our TOTALLY ESSENTIAL, WORLD CHANGING INFINITY ARC! All you have to do is buy 5 issues of Avengers, 5 issues of New Avengers, 6 issues of Infinity and pick up some of these tie ins as well". I'm going to say something I haven't said about any other arc save Civil War: you cannot get by just reading one of these trades. You have to read Avengers with Infinity, at the least! New Avengers is kind of a toss up. You don't really have to read that one to know what's happening here, unless you wanna know about the state of Wakanda and Iron Man. But you cannot understand Avengers without reading Infinity as it was released.
So, shell out over $100 (I believe) to read these 2 series just to follow what's going on. Or wait a while and read it all for $10 on Marvel Unlimited... which is what I did.
This is confusing to follow. Even reading it all concurrently, I am confused as hell. There's Builders who are sons of Alephs? Who are all children of the Universe... who is a person?
As I understand it, there are 2 plots:
1) Thanos attacks Attilan trying to find his son Thane and to kill him (for fucking what?)
2) The Builders are destroying earth... to save the universe? Because somehow, that's how this works?
Anyway, Avengers is about the Builders part of it. It follows the Avengers teaming up with the Shi'ar Empire, The Skrulls and other races I can't remember to fight the builders. With less of this really overdrawn plot, this could have been super intriguing because Hickman did something I really liked: he made Captain America a Captain.
I know, "what do you mean? he leads the charge in several books". But in this book, Cap is actually leading an army in a war for the fate of the world. He's negotiating with races he used to fight against and working with their leaders to lead a charge against the Builders. He's using war strategy, sending negotiators (Thor) and delegates to work together. It's nice to see because, outside of flashbacks to the 40s and Civil War (to an extent) I haven't really seen this side of him.
I really love Thor in these series. I'm reading them all at once so I can't pinpoint which one did the most with him but I think Hickman used Thor really well. Not just his hammer but his battle prowess and strategy.
Those are the only nice things I have to say about this. I hate the way women were drawn in this book. It's a shame because I absolutely adore the way Cap is drawn in it. Just FYI, when women know they'll have to do a lot of running and fighting, we don't wear suits that ride up our asses. Just a word fo advice when drawing asses, if it's not something you'd be comfortable running in, it's not something we'd be comfortable in either.
So, it's not really a recommend unless you're determined to read Infinity. Then, it's a must. I wish I could say it was super enjoyable...
Where to begin... where to begin...
So, Marvel was really feeling themselves with this one, huh? "Read our TOTALLY ESSENTIAL, WORLD CHANGING INFINITY ARC! All you have to do is buy 5 issues of Avengers, 5 issues of New Avengers, 6 issues of Infinity and pick up some of these tie ins as well". I'm going to say something I haven't said about any other arc save Civil War: you cannot get by just reading one of these trades. You have to read Avengers with Infinity, at the least! New Avengers is kind of a toss up. You don't really have to read that one to know what's happening here, unless you wanna know about the state of Wakanda and Iron Man. But you cannot understand Avengers without reading Infinity as it was released.
So, shell out over $100 (I believe) to read these 2 series just to follow what's going on. Or wait a while and read it all for $10 on Marvel Unlimited... which is what I did.
This is confusing to follow. Even reading it all concurrently, I am confused as hell. There's Builders who are sons of Alephs? Who are all children of the Universe... who is a person?
As I understand it, there are 2 plots:
1) Thanos attacks Attilan trying to find his son Thane and to kill him (for fucking what?)
2) The Builders are destroying earth... to save the universe? Because somehow, that's how this works?
Anyway, Avengers is about the Builders part of it. It follows the Avengers teaming up with the Shi'ar Empire, The Skrulls and other races I can't remember to fight the builders. With less of this really overdrawn plot, this could have been super intriguing because Hickman did something I really liked: he made Captain America a Captain.
I know, "what do you mean? he leads the charge in several books". But in this book, Cap is actually leading an army in a war for the fate of the world. He's negotiating with races he used to fight against and working with their leaders to lead a charge against the Builders. He's using war strategy, sending negotiators (Thor) and delegates to work together. It's nice to see because, outside of flashbacks to the 40s and Civil War (to an extent) I haven't really seen this side of him.
I really love Thor in these series. I'm reading them all at once so I can't pinpoint which one did the most with him but I think Hickman used Thor really well. Not just his hammer but his battle prowess and strategy.
Those are the only nice things I have to say about this. I hate the way women were drawn in this book. It's a shame because I absolutely adore the way Cap is drawn in it. Just FYI, when women know they'll have to do a lot of running and fighting, we don't wear suits that ride up our asses. Just a word fo advice when drawing asses, if it's not something you'd be comfortable running in, it's not something we'd be comfortable in either.
So, it's not really a recommend unless you're determined to read Infinity. Then, it's a must. I wish I could say it was super enjoyable...
plaidbrarian's review
3.0
A bit hard to read since it's really a bunch of ancillary tie-ins to a larger event mini-series (which, admittedly, I have yet to read), so you never really get the full story, but its Jonathan Hickman and Leinil Francis Yu, so it still reads and looks better than most other superhero comics out there, so there's that. The fact that there's no pay-off for the final issue in this collection, though (it presumably leads into the last issue of the Infinity mini-series) is frustrating, though.
skolastic's review
4.0
I was skeptical of Hickman doing an alien invasion story after the last two mediocre volumes, and there are definitely parts of it that just kind of drag on and on, but the excitement builds nicely in this and staging it in the midst of the "universe coming apart at the seams" stuff from Avengers/New Avengers makes the outcome actually seem like it could turn dark at any moment. Probably better than it has any right to be.
booknooknoggin's review
3.0
Was hoping this would have more epic battles being that it is a fight to save the universe, but it was kind of dry, and blah. Beautiful artwork though.
tmntfan's review
2.0
Hard to track. Granted i am starting in the middle with no experience with the modern superheros but even from that standpoint. This moves fast and to do that it is telling not showing everything. It is like all of mass effect in a text book rather than played out as a game.
rtimmorris's review
2.0
This is part of the Infinity crossover event but honestly, if you're not planning on reading the ENTIRE event then you should really just skip Avengers Vol.4 as well. Each issue ends on a cliffhanger, which is then (I presume) picked up on over in the regular Infinity series, so when we come back to the next Avengers issue there are already some resolved plot lines.
There's some big fun cosmic adventure stuff in here, though the actual Avengers never really seem to hog any screen time. Too many other characters are in control here that it doesn't even feel like another volume in the series.
Also: damn I hate Leinil Francis Yu. He ruined Secret Invasion (well, HELPED ruin it. Thanks Bendis!), and his style seems to have only gotten worse since. I was excited when he first came on the scene - I think it was a 4 or 5 issue run of Wolverine in the late 90's - but his characters are now mostly indiscernible from one another.
The New Avengers Infinity tie-ins can still be read without the bigger picture; this one, not so much. At least there is some development of the some of the newer characters such as Ex Nihilo, Abyss and Captain Universe.
There's some big fun cosmic adventure stuff in here, though the actual Avengers never really seem to hog any screen time. Too many other characters are in control here that it doesn't even feel like another volume in the series.
Also: damn I hate Leinil Francis Yu. He ruined Secret Invasion (well, HELPED ruin it. Thanks Bendis!), and his style seems to have only gotten worse since. I was excited when he first came on the scene - I think it was a 4 or 5 issue run of Wolverine in the late 90's - but his characters are now mostly indiscernible from one another.
The New Avengers Infinity tie-ins can still be read without the bigger picture; this one, not so much. At least there is some development of the some of the newer characters such as Ex Nihilo, Abyss and Captain Universe.