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Dark Age by Pierce Brown

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adventurous challenging dark tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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dark slow-paced

1.0

Spoilers ahead! This is going to be a long, detailed review as I have visceral negative feelings about this book and author. If you love this book or don’t want spoilers, click away. You’ve been warned.

Overall, I found the writing to be sloppy. It suffers from having far too many characters, gratuitous violence, lack of constraints grounding the world, unbelievable plot twists, lack of a cohesive plot, homophobia, misogyny, and an author’s disregard for his readers. Pierce Brown managed to take a formula that worked for him in the first trilogy and bastardized it to the point that it feels like a cheapened, hollow imitation of its former self.

Getting into the specifics:

1. Overly Swollen Character List
Each new character has a gaggle of other unimportant side characters to digest. Take a gander at the Dramatis Personae page, then realize the low-level side characters aren’t even listed there. Woof. Why so many characters? Oh, just so Brown can butcher them. Trying to understand who new characters were and their dynamics became a chore. If you devoted any significant mental energy to keeping everyone straight, you’re rewarded by realizing so many of them are dead by the end and thus all that energy to keep everyone straight was ultimately pointless.

2. Gratuitous Gore and Violence
There was gore, rape, torture, genocide, cannibalism, nailing a newborn baby to a tree, a lot of butchered horses, and not one but two separate cases of pedophilia. Look, I was girded for this book to be brutal. I’m not a sensitive person to this stuff, but this level of depraved gratuitous violence just for violence’s sake was just lazy. I’ve read books like The Poppy War series and Manacled with similar war violence and they were some of my favorite books. Not because of the violence but because the violence was contextualized. If an author takes the time to reflect and make you realize why these violence scenes are necessary for plot, theme, or a wider moral message, it can be quite poignant. This, however, felt like the violence was there only for shock value as due reflection was often glanced over if undertaken at all. The graphic violence is also unceasing to the point that it was all so absurd and overdone by the end.

3. Unmooring Known Constraints in the Book’s World
When long-dead characters come back from the grave for cheap plot twists, it begs the question of what is actually at stake in this world? Think about it. In this world, healing is extremely easy and dead characters are now coming back to life. They can engineer fantastical creatures and impossible to kill monsters. They can terraform planets, control weather, and travel impossibly far in space. Characters will accomplish unbelievable levels of education, cunning, and war training off the page. Darrow is such an overpowered hero that anything’s possible to him while simultaneously any mishap feels almost unbelievable because he’s so perfect. There’s a balance between creating an interesting sci-fi fantasy world and anchoring it with limits such as physics, biology, strength, time, death, politics, resources, the limits of the human mind and body, etc. This lost that balance. Anything seems possible, so any character growth or accomplishment feels cheap, unearned, and hollow. Brown has figuratively unmoored the series from the laws of gravity such that it feels adrift out in space.

4. Believability
The big plot twist was a lazy, reused idea. He resurrected the Jackal as a 10-year-old clone, who then successfully takes over the Republic government with a coup. Sigh. Here’s a running list of characters in the series who actually died or were written to seem dead to other characters and/or the reader: Darrow, Virginia, Sevro, Cassius, and the Jackal. Learn a new trick, boyo. The Jackal plot twist was all so unbelievably absurd. Laughably absurd. It was such a gross betrayal of his readers that it felt to me like the last season of Game of Thrones.

The Jackal coup wasn’t the only unbelievably absurd plot twist, but let’s start our examination there. Tell me how a 10-year-old clone boy can make an underground crime network, dupe a senator, then stage a coup inside the Senate chamber? This same boy was outsmarted and out gunned previously as an adult and is described as being less cunning as a boy repeatedly by Virginia during their interactions. Yet he somehow orchestrated this unbelievable coup? The way the coup played out as well was just done for shock value alone and was lazy as it wasn’t grounded in how historical coups have transpired. Imagine the whole of the US Congress and President are overthrown by a ten-year-old boy’s plotting. Even with the historically incompetent US political system we now have, that wouldn’t be conceivable even in the most low-budget Hollywood film.

Sefi is also overthrown in a coup that felt comically absurd. He built up the Obsidians as the most brutal of all the classes then Sefi just sits there as two men babble on and on and tell her they’re about to overthrow her. Instead of just shooting either of them, she sits there like a dumb log. Again, this happened only for shock value, not believability. It also threw out the whole moral arc of the Obsidian class in such a lazy and unsatisfying way, which challenges the central premise of the series. If the Obsidians can learn peace and cooperation only to descend back to war and committing genocide, then why is Darrow even trying to free all the races from the Golds? Doesn’t that just play into everything the Gold’s preach? Sigh. It was just done for shock value without consideration to how it tied in with the overarching plot and theme of the series.

Cassius comes back from the dead after being absent the entire book and miraculously rescues Darrow at the end. Again, unbelievable and all too convenient a twist. Then let’s unpack how unbelievable Lysander’s story was. First, he somehow survives a storm killing everyone else and a desert known to kill virtually all who get stranded. Then he somehow gets rescued in disguise by Darrow’s side, gets into the city where Darrow’s side is virtually under siege, gets discovered but escapes to run/fly across the city in plain sight without getting killed as all of Darrow’s forces pursue him, works with someone else to use Darrow’s own EMP to wipe out their tech (so their transport and weapons), then rallies the city against Darrow’s side to attack him. One man did this all by himself. Yup. And you’re telling me that the people who are getting called slaves are going to rally to the slavers? Again, unbelievable.

Repeatedly, sides which were on their last leg or dead suddenly come back and miraculously out maneuver characters with established political and physical prowess. Again unbelievable. Brown gets so caught up in catching the reader off guard with unforeseen plot twists that they end up feeling tired, cheap, and laughable by a certain point. I love a good plot twist, but you have to have it moored in reality.

5. Plot
Some previous points tie in here. The plot was all over the place. It’s a swollen 800ish pages, half of which felt unnecessary. You could cut out Lyria’s perspective entirely and wouldn’t lose anything but the shock value of what she witnessed which honestly wasn’t needed to advance any other character arcs (we already know Victra is primed for vengeance). Harmony was already known to be vile and we didn’t need to see her Red Hand faction being more heinous. Lysander’s perspective was also unnecessary. Being inside his head was also insufferable. Ephraim gets butchered after all that time spent redeeming himself. The fight scenes were generally well written, but often lasted too long and were too numerous. These action scenes were also juxtaposed against chapters that dragged such that you’d get whiplashed by: Action! Drag. Action! Drag (ad nauseum). And what is the plot? The only things of substance that happened were: Virginia and the Republic are overthrown, Sefi is overthrown, Darrow is booted off Mercury. All the other plot points introduced didn’t complement the main plot, but rather further cheapened it and made it drag.

6. Homophobia
Brown has let his own biases color the writing. It’s become its own trope for male sci-fi/fantasy authors to slip in misogyny and homophobia. Brown has repeatedly let me down here. I gave him a pass in the first book because he was a new author, it was published 10 years ago, and he likely had less editorial support. The issue is, I can’t keep blindly giving this man a pass. The language he uses and the treatment of the female and queer characters is not just unfortunate, it’s harmful. We'll come back to the mysogyny in the next section.

I've touched on the homophobic language he uses in previous reviews. The list of terms used in the series include "pricklicker," "buttboy," and "cock suckers" to name the most egregious. The term "pixie" Brown invented is also used as a pejorative for characters who are either materialistic or acting vain, hedonistic, or effeminate. Oscar Wilde was often derided as a "dandy" in his day and was famously jailed for being a gay author who liked the finer things in life. It's difficult not to see the term "pixie" in the same light as the term "dandy," which was used against Oscar Wilde in the media's portrayal of him during and after his trial. With the term pixie, you can substitute any gay slur (faerie, sissy, pansy, the f-slur) and the context of the sentence would remain unchanged. In Dark Age, there was also a scene where the word catamite is used repeatedly as a pejorative-another example of Brown introducing homophobic language. And it’s not just the villains who use this language, it’s even the characters such as Sevro and Darrow who are written to be respected and loved. The language you use in a series about fighting tyranny and oppression shouldn't marginalize your minority readers.

This book ruined Sevro for me because of his homophobic language. Let’s deconstruct that scene. Mustang catches the crime boss responsible for abducting her son and Sevro’s daughter and captures the man’s memories. She believes Dancer was involved because of the contents of the memory. Sevro and Mustang confront Dancer by showing him the memory, which shows Dancer having adult relations with this crime boss. We didn’t know Dancer was queer so he’s forcibly outed. What plays out is a tense scene where Sevro makes fun of Dancer’s sexuality with the pejorative language you’d expect from a cringy straight guy. Dancer thinks they’re trying to blackmail him for his sexuality. Mustang and Sevro then find out Dancer had no idea the man was a crime boss and that Dancer wasn’t connected to the abduction. Sevro apologizes but it’s while they’re trying to convince Dancer to rally his Senate faction to vote for something Sevro and Virginia want so the apology feels opportunistic and fake. Dancer tells them how hiding his sexuality was deeply emotional for him, but they’re all ultimately good with each other after talking and Dancer agrees to help them in the vote. They then go to the Senate. As Dancer is about to commit his support for Mustang’s cause, he’s brutally killed and a coup transpires. Really? REALLY? You torture this man by making fun of his sexuality, forcibly out him, make him think his sexuality is being used against him, make him think everything is okay, then not only brutally kill him but symbolically take away his voice the way you killed him.

Then Brown does it again with Ephraim, the only other significant queer male character. Ephraim is forced to watch Sefi be butchered then has his heart brutally ripped out. The man already had his heart figuratively ripped out when his husband died (also killed by this author). This book lost me before this part but that was the final nail in the coffin.

For those who would argue it’s a war series and characters die, let’s also examine this author’s history with his queer male characters. Every queer male is portrayed as creepily hitting on Darrow (Tactus), a villain (Tactus, Duke of Hands), deceitful (Duke of Hands, Ephraim, Roque), sexually promiscuous (Quicksilver, Matteo), overly materialistic (Quicksilver, Matteo), a drug addict (Ephraim), or killed off (ALL but Quicksilver and Matteo).

I will be generous and say that writing characters in such a large world and trying to give representation to groups you’re not a part of is always a hard undertaking. It can be a damned if you do, damned if you don’t thing. But you don’t want to reinforce stereotypes, use language which has historically been weaponized against these groups, or repeatedly subject almost all in the group to death or torture. You also put yourself under the microscope even more when your series is about fighting oppression. Brown did more harm with his queer representation than good, unfortunately. It's also hard to see this pattern and not wonder if it was done not in ignorance, but with malevolent intent.

7. Misogyny
As for misogyny, this series is rife with it. You only have to look at the bro banter between the men or what the women are subjected to. I was delighted to see Virginia get her own chapters and generally enjoyed them. Then Brown brutalized her. I liked Sefi and he brutalized her in the dirtiest way. Lyria had an interesting arc then is brutalized by…seeing other women brutalized. She helps Victra give birth in a cringey scene that felt very much like a man describing birth. Then Vicra and Volga are taken, tortured, and Victra’s day-old baby is nailed to a tree. Lyria discovers in the town that a Handmaid’s Tale-esque program is forcing women to be raped and used as broodmares. Except Brown makes it little girls because he always has to do the most. I can give him a pass for having some brutal things happen to a few of the female characters. It’s war. But do all of them need to be so brutalized? And the brutality didn’t even have a purpose most of the time. Treating your female characters again and again this way establishes a pattern that cannot be overlooked.

8. Disregard for the Reader
Part of writing a good book is being able to elicit the breadth of human emotions in your reader. Sometimes bad things have to happen to do this. But there is a balance such that you don’t come across as an author who has a total disregard for the reader. Brown really just flipped us the bird with this one and said, “I know you’ll keep buying my books anyways.” This book was overall tainted with the fact that everything in it was unsatisfying and left us with no sense of hope. Doing this as an author shows a disregard for the reader that breaks their trust in you to pen the story. Authors often must emotionally manipulate readers to give us a good story. Great authors make you love the manipulation. Good authors make you tolerate it. Bad authors make you realize they weren’t a safe person to trust with your emotions. Pierce Brown is the latter. I don’t trust him to execute the theme of the series-fighting tyranny and oppression-properly. I don’t trust him as a queer man to represent me in this series or this world. So why would I want to continue on? There are plenty more qualified authors who tell the stories with the same theme better.

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adventurous challenging dark emotional tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

This book was BRUTAL. Not just because just about everything that could go wrong did. Not just because our heroes were backed into all corners. But because the author thought it would be cute to kill every third character 😭 I feel like I’ve lost so much of my heart. But I must see this series through because it couldn’t have all been for nothing. 

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adventurous dark tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

2.0

The author kept inventing new villains/weapons/histories and only introduced them when he needed them to develop a plot point. It would have been nicer to have foreshadowing and development of these things throughout the book and/or sereis rather than have new things pop up only when they are convenient.
The level of gore and violence in this book is much greater than that of the pervious books in the sereis. Most of the time it is just violence for the sake of violence and does not even contribute to the story line or the moral. So much uncessary violence is in the book that it actually detracts from the shock of certain scenes where violence actually does add value. 
Book was way too long. Plot for thr first 75% of the book is hard to get through and I needed to reference the wiki constantly to keep up with all the new characters being introduced. 

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adventurous challenging dark emotional sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.75

The darkest chapter yet of the red rising sequel trilogy - the Lysander chapters tend to drag a bit, and the non-stop existential brooding of Darrow can grind things to a halt. Ephraim’s story continues to be the most engaging of the sequel series, and Lyria get a lot of character growth that helps make what would otherwise be an annoying plucky “resistance” nu Star Wars character a much more interesting and fascinating experience.

Victra is easily a standout - something about her haughty, better-than-you tone just works, and she’s a far better POV character to have as a grown adult than she would have been in the previous books. 

The darkness is grim and the grimness is dark, but it looks like we’re seeing the end of the tunnel with this space opera of a story. 

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adventurous challenging dark emotional funny reflective sad tense fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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dark medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? N/A
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

5.0


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adventurous challenging tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.5


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adventurous dark emotional slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? N/A

2.75

 Fifth novel in the ‘Red Rising’ series of science fiction books. A story of conflict in the solar system of the far future, when it’s all modeled on ancient Rome. This is not a jumping on point. New readers should start with Red Rising. Regular readers, read on. This book runs for seven hundred and fifty two pages. It has four parts and is further divided into ninety six chapters.

It does not end the story. There’s clearly more to come.

There’s copious violence, some adult moments, and a handful of bits of strong language. So it’s just for the grown ups.
There is a cast of characters at the front. And a map of one key location.
Picking up from the end of the last book, Darrow is now an outlaw. And is at the center of conflict on Mercury. Can he win again, or is his time done?

This is a middle book. And then some. Letting things happen. Setting a lot more up. But it serves no more purpose than that.
In addition to Darrow, there are four other viewpoint characters. It will tell you at the start of each chapter who it is in the one you are reading.
Everyone narrates in first person present tense.
I can see what this is trying to do. It’s cool to be epic, which it has to be in showing the sheer scope of the narrative. But you can get a little too epic for your own good. Which this alas is guilty of.
The big problem is the prose. And the print. All the viewpoint characters do talk and think in the same way, so if not for the name at the start of each chapter, you could easily get confused as to whose chapter it is. I actually did on one occasion.
The way it’s all written, the present tense and lots of short descriptive sentences, coupled with small print size, means this becomes a complete slog at points. The prose really didn’t hold me at all, and I had to take it very slowly to try and make it keep my attention. But that was a chore at times, not a pleasure.
When the focus is on Darrow, it’s okay. The first part does actually come very close to clicking towards it’s end.
But then he rather vanishes from the tale in the middle. Far too much time is given over to two other characters, whose stories don’t really go as far as you would hope and seem like diversions from the central story at times, so it’s easy to lose your focus there.
It does slightly come back together in the final part where all plot points do converge and some things develop. But that’s where the middle book problem comes in. Because all this has done is be grim gritty and depressing for hundreds of pages, and leave so much up in the air.
There are a few too many miraculous bits of tech just happening to come into play at key points, as well.

As seems to be a common problem these days, you really wonder how much editing was done on this. If at all.
Just gets two stars because of it’s ambition and occasional moments of clicking, but I am afraid this series has rather lost it’s way for me. I will consider reading any future one, but it needs to be a bit shorter and much less indulgent to make me want to. 

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emotional reflective sad tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

4.5


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